Comentarios en: The real Snow white: Maria Sophia Margaretha Catharina von Erthal http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/2014/10/20/the-real-snow-white-maria-sophia-margaretha-catharina-von-erthal/ Otro sitio realizado con WordPress Sat, 11 Feb 2017 01:24:59 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.25 Por: MariaSampedro http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/2014/10/20/the-real-snow-white-maria-sophia-margaretha-catharina-von-erthal/#comment-185 Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:57:16 +0000 http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/?p=428#comment-185 I completely agree with you Carmen, we should analyze the older fairytales when they are read to our students, for the story and what happens in it reflects on children, a reality which, as you say, is far from reality (in Disney) and to gore (in Grimms’ version).

I have to say that I grew up with these stories (Disney) and I have not based my life on being a “damsel in distress” who needs her prince, but I know people who have idealized that kind of love at first sight, so I like more the present Disney stories, I think it was time to show more independent princesses and fighters, in addition to other kinds of love that exist as between parents and children (in my movies parents most often were distant beings, not unless it was a wicked stepmother), between sisters and even between enemies.

We will see if tthey continue changing and renovating the fairytales stories!

]]> Por: carmen.hidalgo http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/2014/10/20/the-real-snow-white-maria-sophia-margaretha-catharina-von-erthal/#comment-165 Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:57:38 +0000 http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/?p=428#comment-165 Hi Maria, thank you for commenting on my post. :)
On one hand, of course!, Grimm Brothers and Disney took those special details and became that story in a “lovely” version, although in the Grimm’s one there is a bit of cruelty.
That means that we can get the most of everything (a real story, an ancient version, something that happened to us…) to create a didactic tool for our future pupils. But, as we are thinking about its possible influence on them we have to take into account all the details of the story. What Raquel said the other day in class: Do we think that these kind of stories are appropriate for children to take as a model?
I’m really sure that we should analyse Grimm and Disney’s versions step by step because there are a lot of things that could be dangerous for children to learn, such as the woman model in most of the stories, in which she always seems to depend on the handsome prince to be totally happy; the beauty in these kind of stories is always overestimating, much more than the wisdom or how kind you were…; the villain is also characterised by a woman, so all women have to be bad or beautiful… these kind of things can be harmful for children if we don’t know how to teach them to take them into account.
On the other hand, I really loved the story of Sleeping beauty as well and the Grimm’s version is also surprising, but, have you watched the movie Malefica? This shows a completely different version of what we thought about the villain. (I’m really sorry because I am a Disney’s enthusiast :P) In this one the story changes a lot and Malefica is shown as the real victim and as a “mother” who fights to get the love of the Sleeping beauty. If you have not watched that and you like these kind of versions I recommend you to do it. It’s really great!
Finally, I think that, as future teachers, we can offer our pupils these kind of versions too, to make them compare and reflect on different points of view. We can also create new versions from other stories to see what would happen with “villains” and the “good ones”.

]]> Por: MariaSampedro http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/2014/10/20/the-real-snow-white-maria-sophia-margaretha-catharina-von-erthal/#comment-123 Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:18:38 +0000 http://blogs.cardenalcisneros.es/childrenslit/?p=428#comment-123 Hi Carmen!

I really loved your new post. I think it is very interesting to know that Disney gives us a version more light than the original versions of these stories, and many original versions differ from each other.

I also find it very interesting to know that there was a Snow White so close and real from the one that appears in the story. I did not know that!

I read the version of Grimms’ Brothers that you have left in the link and I can tell you is much like the story that more commonly know and have many similarities in common, such as the “Magic Mirror” (I want one!) for as you have well said, surprised by the real, appears in three stories; the death of the mother is also one of the common elements, but between a year or two of difference between death and remarriage to every story, and of course our protagonist’s relationship with the small miners!

I leave the link to the Grimms’ version for one of my favorite princesses: “Sleeping Beauty” http://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/sleeping_beauty

Also at the same address, http: //www.grimmstories .com / en / grimm_fairy-such / list you can find many versions of other fairytales if you’re interested.

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